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[FULL ANALYSIS] Bitcoin exchanges and payment processors in Canada are now regulated as Money Service Businesses

Hello Bitcoiners!
Many of you saw my tweet yesterday about the Bitcoin regulations in Canada. As usual, some journalists decided to write articles about my tweets without asking me for the full context :P Which means there has been a lot of misunderstanding. Particuarly, these regulations mean that we can lower the KYC requirements and no longer require ID documents or bank account connections! We can also increase the daily transaction limit from $3,000 per day to $10,000 per day for unverified accounts. The main difference is that we now have a $1,000 per-transaction limit (instead of per day) and we must report suspicious transactions. It's important to read about our reporting requirements, as it is the main difference since pretty much every exchange was doing KYC anyway.
Hopefully you appreciate the transparency, and I'm available for questions!
Cheers,
Francis
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Text below is copied from: https://medium.com/bull-bitcoin/bitcoin-exchanges-and-payment-processors-in-canada-are-now-regulated-as-money-service-businesses-1ca820575511

Bitcoin is money, regulated like money

Notice to Canadian Bitcoin users

If you are the user of a Canadian Bitcoin company, be assured that:
You may notice that the exchange service you are using has change its transactions limits or is now requiring more information from you.
You can stop reading this email now without any consequence! Otherwise, keep regarding if you are interested in my unique insights into this important topic!

Background on regulation

Today marks an important chapter for Bitcoin’s history in Canada: Bitcoin is officially regulated as money (virtual currency) under the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act of Canada (PCMLTFA), under the jurisdiction of the Financial Transaction and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC).
This is the culmination of 5 years of effort by numerous Bitcoin Canadian advocates collaborating with the Ministry of Finance, Fintrac and other Canadian government agencies.
It is important to note that there is no new Bitcoin law in Canada. In June of 2014, the Governor General of Canada (representing Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II) gave royal asset to Bill C-31, voted by parliament under Stephen Harper’s Conservative government, which included amendments to the PCMLTFA to included Bitcoin companies (named “dealers in virtual currency”) as a category of Money Service Businesses.
Thereafter, FINTRAC engaged in the process of defining what exactly is meant by “dealing in virtual currency” and what particular rules would apply to the businesses in this category. Much of our work was centred around excluding things like non-custodial wallets, nodes, mining and other activities that were not related exchange or payments processing.
To give an idea, the other categories that apply to traditional fiat currency businesses are:
When we say that Bitcoin is now regulated, what we mean is that these questions have been settled, officially published, and that they are now legally binding.
Businesses that are deemed to be “dealing in virtual currency” must register with FINTRAC as a money service business, just like they would if they were doing traditional currency exchange or payment processing.
There is no “license” required, which means that you do not need the government’s approval before you can operate a Bitcoin exchange business. However, when you operate a Money Service Business, you must register and comply with the laws… otherwise you risk jail time and large fines.

What activities are regulated as Money Service Business activity?

A virtual currency exchange transaction is defined as: “an exchange, at the request of another person or entity, of virtual currency for funds, funds for virtual currency or one virtual currency for another.” This includes, but is not limited to:

Notice to foreign Bitcoin companies with clients in Canada

Regardless of whether or not your business is based in Canada, you must register with FINTRAC as a Foreign Money Service Business, if:

How this affects BullBitcoin.com and Bylls.com

The regulation of Bitcoin exchange and payment services has always been inevitable. If we want Bitcoin to be considered as money, we must accept that it will be regulated like other monies. Our stance on the regulation issue has always been that Bitcoin exchanges and payment processors should be regulated like fiat currency exchanges and payment processors, no more, no less. This is the outcome we obtained.
To comply with these regulations, we are implementing a few changes to our Know-Your-Customer requirement and transaction limits which may paradoxically make your experience using Bull Bitcoin and Bylls even more private and convenient!

The bad news

The good news

To understand these regulations, we highly recommend reading this summary by our good friends and partners at Outlier Compliance.

Summary of our obligations

Our responsibilities:
The information required to perform a compliant know-your-customer validation:
Record keeping obligations:

Suspicious transaction reporting

Satoshi Portal is required to make suspicious transactions report to FINTRAC after we have detected a fact that amounts to reasonable grounds to suspect that one of your transactions is related to the commission or attempted commission of a money laundering offence or a terrorist activity financing offence.
Failure by Satoshi Portal Inc. to report a suspicious transaction could lead to up to five years imprisonment, a fine of up to $2,000,000, or both, for its executives.
We are not allowed to share with anyone other than FINTRAC, including our clients, the contents of a suspicious transaction report as well as the fact that a suspicious transaction report has been filed.

What is suspicious activity?

Note for bitcoinca: this section applies ONLY to Bull Bitcoin. Most exchanges have much stricter interpretation of what is suspicious. You should operate under the assumption that using Coinjoin or TOR will get you flagged at some other exchanges even though it's okay for Bull Bitcoin. That is simply because we have a more sophisticated understanding of privacy best practices.
Identifying suspicious behavior is heavily dependent on the context of each transaction. We understand and take into account that for many of our customers, privacy and libertarian beliefs are of the utmost importance, and that some users may not know that the behavior they are engaging in is suspicious. When we are concerned or confused about the behaviors of our users, we endeavour to discuss it with them before jumping to conclusions.
In general, here are a few tips:
Here are some examples of behavior that we do not consider suspicious:
Here are some example indicators of behavior that would lead us to investigate whether or not a transaction is suspicious:

What does this mean for Bitcoin?

It was always standard practice for Bitcoin companies to operate under the assumption they would eventually be regulated and adopt policies and procedures as if they were already regulated. The same practices used for legal KYC were already commonplace to mitigate fraud (chargebacks).
In addition, law enforcement and other government agencies in Canada were already issuing subpoenas and information requests to Bitcoin companies to obtain the information of users that were under investigation.
We suspect that cash-based Bitcoin exchanges, whether Bitcoin ATMs, physical Bitcoin exchanges or Peer-to-Peer trading, will be the most affected since they will no longer be able to operate without KYC and the absence of KYC was the primary feature that allowed them to justify charging such high fees and exchange rate premiums.
One thing is certain, as of today, there is no ambiguity whatsoever that Bitcoin is 100% legal and regulated in Canada!
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Why does the world's first Bitcoin ATM force users to provide a biometric palm scan? No doubt the NSA and FBI are happy...

I don't see why this is necessary. This issue was already raised in Vancouver. Apparently the company that owns the ATM is NOT legally required to request a biometric scan because bitcoins don't fall under the proceeds of crime/terrorist financing laws. I can only assume Bitcoiniacs could disable the palm scan if they wanted to.
And more to the point, why did the manufacturer, Robocoin, implement this technology? Do ALL BTC ATMs force users to identify themselves somehow?
You can see a demo of the biometrics at this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFqBtvLVRpY
Vancouver discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/vancouvecomments/1pil2v/using_the_first_bitcoin_atm_in_waves_coffee_house/?sort=confidence
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Adam S. Tracy Explains The State of Incorporation (Fallacy) Decision

Transcribed from: https://tracyfirm.com/adam-s-tracy-explains-the-state-of-incorporation-fallacy-decision/
Where should I incorporate? What state? I get this question five times a week. What state is better, what state helps me? What state has a better tax regime? Why should I incorporate in Nevada versus Delaware? Right? And the reality is the answer is completely over hyped. There couldn’t be a bigger misunderstanding in terms of what states have certain rights and privileges that others don’t. Your traditional states are like Delaware, Nevada. And then recently you had places like Wyoming and even Florida that have kind of come on, and almost offered cheaper incorporations as sort of a revenue stream for the state in question. But when you’re talking about running a crypto related business, what’s really relevant isn’t what state you incorporate in, but it’s what state you reside and operate from. So, obviously New York has the BIT license requirement. If you’re talking about state money transmitter laws, like Wyoming, which is a popular state to incorporate in, has some different capital requirements for operators of Bitcoin related businesses typically exchanges, right? But at the same time Wyoming is a very small state, and you’re probably not operating from there, statistically speaking. So, you really don’t have to worry about the laws. So the reality is you can incorporate in like a Wyoming and then operate from Illinois, and you have to worry about the laws of the state that you are actually operating from. Right? And if you want to operate in another state then you’ll have to worry about the laws pertaining to cryptocurrency or money transmission in that state, right? But if you can find your activity to a certain state or the nature of your activities such that you can deem every transaction you effectively encounter to occur in that state, which by contract you definitely can, then you only really need to concern yourself with the laws of that state. So to answer the question, you know, I’m a big proponent of cost, right? Like when I look at Delaware, you’re looking at almost $1,100. When I look at Nevada, they hit you with this business list, which takes their $150 Corporation and makes it almost $800, and you don’t really get a great deal of benefit from that. Right? I mean, there’s some speed and convenience elements to Nevada that make it very cogent, like in terms of having a robust online platform and quick turnarounds of formations which to a large extent can make it worthwhile. But, you know, from a legal perspective, you look at a state like Wyoming, which is really just pattern, its corporations code against the Nevada code, which in turn was an amalgamation of Delaware — the original sort of corporate Hub — and then all the case law that has developed which makes Delaware an attractive place to incorporate. But if you’re looking for convenience and sort of speed, Nevada’s great. If you’re looking for the same legal protections and not keen to pay thousands of dollars a year, especially when you start increasing number of shares in your paid-in capital or the tax your yearly franchise tax can go through the roof, then look at Wyoming. You can incorporate online immediately. It’s $100 cost, and you get the same protections and privileges as Nevada. So, you know, but at the end of the day, any state is pretty much on par with all others. I think the difference is very overstated, and I think you have certain states that have a reputation, but the reputation is a bit overstated for what they really get. So when you’re talking about a crypto-based entity, look first at what the particular cryptocurrencies (if there are any) laws are in that state and even to the extent and how they’ve interpreted things like money transmission license applications for exchanges in bitcoin ATM networks, things like that, look into those which a lot you can get with a simple Freedom of Information Act request that sends to the right Bureau. They’ll give you copies of the application, you get a sense of it, but don’t let the alleged preference of one state over another guide your decision for a crypto-based entity because there’s simply nothing compared to it. We’ve got to rely on the state that you’re from.
If you have any questions regarding where to incorporate, be sure to contact attorney Adam S. Tracy.
A former competitive rugby player, serial entrepreneur and, trader, attorney, Adam S. Tracy offers over 17 years of progressive legal and compliance experience in the areas of corporate, commodities, cryptocurrency, litigation, payments and securities law. Adam’s experience ranges from commodities trader for oil giant BP, initial public offerings, M&A, to initial coin offerings, having represented both startups to NASDAQ-listed entities. As an early Bitcoin adapter, Adam has promoted growth of cryptocurrency and offers a unique approach to representing crypto-clients. Based in Chicago, IL, Adam graduated from the University of Notre Dame with dual degrees in Finance and Computer Applications and would later obtain his J.D. and M.B.A. from DePaul University. Adam lives outside Chicago with his six animals, which is illegal where he lives.
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Washington state financial regulation department writes that digital currency and Bitcoin is money

On the Department of Financial Institutions (DFI) web page for money transmitters there is a Featured Information section:
http://www.dfi.wa.gov/cs/money-services-providers.htm
The first bullet proclaims that under the Revised Code of Washington (Washington state's law code) digital currencies, crypto-currencies, and specifically Bitcoin are "money."
There are many different digital currencies being used over the internet, the most commonly known being Bitcoin. In Washington, digital currency is included in the definition of "Money" in the Uniform Money Services Act (UMSA), chapter 19.230 RCW
The relevant RCW 19.230.010 definition 16.
Now that specific text doesn't seem to speak at all to digital currencies least of which Bitcoin which is decentralized and not controlled or required to be accepted by any government. Nonetheless the web page does clearly state the that it is considered "money" for their intents and purposes anyway.
I'd say this means that this specific department (DFI) has interpreted the law code to include Bitcoin. Whether courts of law, judges, the state legislature, or even their own judgements or executive actions would include digital currencies remains to be seen. But it's a clear precedent in my book.
I would guess this paragraph was written due to many inquiries into Bitcoin and digital currency money transmission. E.g. people inquiring or apply for licenses for ATMs. But that's, of course, just a guess.
Interesting local development nonetheless. Anybody have any more info?
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IRS auditing people selling bitcoin

I saw this on the Michigan Bitcoiners Facebook Group.
Edit: Context - This person runs a bitcoin ATM or uses local bitcoins or something to sell bitcoins to people. This isn't about using exchanges or Coinbase to sell bitcoin.
Hey everyone, im here to give everyone some kind of bad news.
Recently Pierce and I spoke to Agent Angel Fitzsimmons from the IRS. We had an audit with them regarding our Bitcoin operations. The IRS now has a new section specifically devoted to checking up on people selling Bitcoin, and Bitcoin related businesses. I just want to pass along the information she gave to us.
Basically the bottom line is that if you sell Bitcoin, you are a money transmitter, and are required by law to register as an MSB with FinCEN, regardless of how much you may sell. Michael, and I had spoken before this, and he had informed me that a lawyer had said that as long as it is less than $1000 per person per day they would not qualify as an MSB. However, according to Agent Fitzsimmons this only applies to check cashers and sellers of prepaid access, which Bitcoin is neither.
If you know that you are supposed to register as an MSB and hold and AML/KYC policy, but have not done it, or refuse to do it, fines are $25,000 per day that you were supposed to hold the policy.
If you have questions about anything, we will do our best to answer them. Our meeting with her lasted for almost 5 hours, we had to provide her with a complete list of sales, bank statements, bitcoin statements, a flow chart of how we work, and we now have 30 days to comply or be charged.
‪>#‎Bitcoin‬
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Robinhood Receives License To Operate Within New York City

Robinhood and LibertyX have been officially gained the approval to deal in Virtual currencies within New York City from the NYDFS.

Robinhood Crypto Launches in New York City

Robinhood, which is a trading platform for stocks, will be expanding its affiliation with digital currencies for the citizens of New York. This feature is however not new to Robinhood users in other parts of the United States, the only difference is that the firm was holding out on providing Crypto related services to New Yorkers awaiting approval from the NYDFS (New York State Department of Financial Services).
The state of New York has approved the app to provide Crypto services through seven digital currencies which include Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, and Litecoin. The Robinhood Crypto feature was already accessible to residents within various states within the US. Robinhood has been recently facing some controversy on account of the firm releasing bank accounts that are interest bearing which the SIPC (Securities Investor Protection Corporation) does not cover.
Vlad Tenev, the co-chief executive of Robinhood in the press release thanked the NYDFS for their decision saying that the agency had been accommodating and provided a lot of support throughout the process. Tenev added that Robinhood will be looking forwards to receiving guidance from the agency during the process of launching Robinhood Crypto in the New York area.

Extensive Regulation Inhibiting Innovation

LibertyX is a nationwide network that enables retailers, in exchange for Bitcoin, to receive transactions in cash and credit cards. LibertyX, which going by DFS is the first firm to receive approval for the selling of Crypto in exchange for debit cards, will henceforth be able to operate within New York City. Terminals affiliated with LibertyX will now be able to facilitate debit card purchases on a regular basis. Within New York, Bitcoin ATMs only facilitate transactions using cash while Coinbase only accepts credit cards.
The NYDFS released a press statement stating that it has and will continue to answer to innovations taking place within the financial markets space in a prompt an responsible manner. The agency stated that this response will be made by providing licenses for: money transmitters through the money transmitters’ law of New York, online lenders through banking law of New York and digital currency exchanges through the financial services law.
This latest approval puts the total number of licences approved by the DFS, to companies within the Crypto sphere, to sixteen. Critics have however put the agency on blast in the recent past accusing them of slow processing of the applications. This is the reason why extensive regulation has been said to be one of the roadblocks for innovations. Investors pull their resources together into a project only to have the government slow down the project on account of regulation.

Varying Opinions On The Introduction of the BitLicense

New York City’s introduction of the BitLicense was received contentiously by many people within the Crypto community. Crypto exchanges on their part protested this introduction by disregarding customers within New York City in their offerings and services.

#LibertyX #NEWS #NYDFS #Robinhood
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01-16 16:43 - 'Bitcoin is fraudulent and nothing but insider Trading ...NO, Researchers find that one person likely drove Bitcoin from $150 to $1,000 ....NO. Try more FUD' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/Theguy3993 removed from /r/Bitcoin within 564-574min

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Yeah ok keep pumping out the articles about this so funny I would bet the articles stating bitcoin went to 1000$ on fraudulent money is 100% posted by insider traders or Wall St.. And Its no secret Wall St is driven by insider trading. Heck you can watch a documentary that shows how they do insider trading using loopholes of having a couple people down the line get the info that they "donate" money to for information. But anyways I just wanted to post another rant and laugh... Also, if you want to claim bitcoin is fraudulent based on a couple people who traded 36 million dollars worth of a coin worth 250 Billion on average give or take 50 billion or 0.000144% of bitcoin then I guess all banks should close tomorrow since 90% of all money banks handle have traces of cociane on them and clearly came from fraudulent places.
Again, I will state bitcoin will rise and fall like it always does pretty much only falling from fake news pumped in sync with sell offs to try to get more for cheap, and thats fine its so obvious to me also I have traded since before Mt.Gox and the coins never went to its peak and stayed there untill after the fall of Mt.Gox. The timeline may show that right before Mt.gox froze the price of BTC was going up. Until around that time but anyone who used MT.Gox knows that no one could move, trade or withdraw there funds long before it was froze and it finally froze from the lawsuits regarding this so essentially Mt.Gox was out of the game.
And for those who like facts here you are I will include the links also
[link]1
"On 15 May 2013, the US authorities seized accounts associated with Mt. Gox after discovering that it had not registered as a money transmitter with FinCEN in the US.[52][53]
On 17 May 2013, it was reported that BitInstant processed approximately 30 percent of the money going into and out of bitcoin, and in April alone facilitated 30,000 transactions,[54]
On 23 June 2013, it was reported that the US Drug Enforcement Administration listed 11.02 bitcoins as a seized asset in a United States Department of Justice seizure notice pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 881.[55] It is the first time a government agency has claimed to have seized bitcoin.[56][57]
In July 2013 a project began in Kenya linking bitcoin with M-Pesa, a popular mobile payments system, in an experiment designed to spur innovative payments in Africa.[58] During the same month the Foreign Exchange Administration and Policy Department in Thailand stated that bitcoin lacks any legal framework and would therefore be illegal, which effectively banned trading on bitcoin exchanges in the country.[59][60] According to Vitalik Buterin, a writer for Bitcoin Magazine, "bitcoin's fate in Thailand may give the electronic currency more credibility in some circles", but he was concerned it didn't bode well for bitcoin in China.[61]
On 6 August 2013, Federal Judge Amos Mazzant of the Eastern District of Texas of the Fifth Circuit ruled that bitcoins are "a currency or a form of money" (specifically securities as defined by Federal Securities Laws), and as such were subject to the court's jurisdiction,[62][63] and Germany's Finance Ministry subsumed bitcoins under the term "unit of account"—a financial instrument—though not as e-money or a functional currency, a classification nonetheless having legal and tax implications.[64]
In October 2013, the FBI seized roughly 26,000 BTC from website Silk Road during the arrest of alleged owner Ross William Ulbricht.[65][66][67] Two companies, Robocoin and Bitcoiniacs launched the world's first bitcoin ATM on 29 October 2013 in Vancouver, BC, Canada, allowing clients to sell or purchase bitcoin currency at a downtown coffee shop.[68][69][70] Chinese internet giant Baidu had allowed clients of website security services to pay with bitcoins.[71]
In November 2013, the University of Nicosia announced that it would be accepting bitcoin as payment for tuition fees, with the university's chief financial officer calling it the "gold of tomorrow".[72] During November 2013, the China-based bitcoin exchange BTC China overtook the Japan-based Mt. Gox and the Europe-based Bitstamp to become the largest bitcoin trading exchange by trade volume.[73]
In December 2013, Overstock.com[74] announced plans to accept bitcoin in the second half of 2014. On 5 December 2013, the People's Bank of China prohibited Chinese financial institutions from using bitcoins.[75] After the announcement, the value of bitcoins dropped,[76] and Baidu no longer accepted bitcoins for certain services.[77] Buying real-world goods with any virtual currency has been illegal in China since at least 2009.[78]"
*** In fact I was trading the Down swings around this time and remember it quite clearly and the price most deffinatly did not shoot up with any relation to Mt.Gox if anything Mt.Gox was the reason for the fall from the news and panic!
Also, WAKE UP PEOPLE. Wall St's total value is what 2.7 Trillion that took like 100 years to get. Does no one else realize the magnitude of Bitcoin to them. Bitcoin in 10 years or less including its many other Coins under it is worth 658-758Billion or 0.65-0.75T in 1/10th the time Wall St did it and its getting bigger all the time.
[link]2
I've said it before and Ill say it again there scared because Bitcoin, (and altcoin), traders are used to volatility, We can loose 70% of our gains or investment in a day or an hour and still keep on truckin. But that type of volatility scared the pants off the big traders because they also have investors to explain these situations to and they have no merits to base there explanations on since nothing in the real world short of good and bad news or money in and money out of coins affects the prices very much. And for this reason Wall St will never like it and the fact its outside of there nice controlled systems they designed that benefit the rich and rape the poor. And this new system which does not allow credit, or BS is a new realm to them. Sure there might be some insider trading some of the time but the order books and live stats are available to anyone and everyone equally, unlike stocks where you need crazy memberships just to get short 15 minute delayed stats on the live markets and only the top accounts with over 50,000$ invested can even dream about getting anything better. And you have to pay 6.99-24.99 Per trade the lesser being for the 50k investor, leaving no learning curve for the small guys. So in my opinion its still a way better system and anyone can easily do some research like I have today and not panic sell from every little BS article and simple trade for yourselves. And Bitcoin to Altcoin trades BTW will cost you 0.06-0.08% and Bitcoin/Altcoin to USD (Or your Currency) will cost you 0.18-0.24% on most exchanges or platforms.
If you've read my rant this far I thank you for your time. Some article just really grind my gears :D
PS - Below is some handy trading platforms and tools
I would also like to take a moment just to say anyone interested in a FreeTrading Platform should check out Qt Bitcoin Trader from source forge. Or if your a bit more advanced there is a nice program you can try for free and the trial is the the same as the full version (I have used both since I bought it shortly after) and that is called LeonarDo by margin software a very talented German company.
Qt Bitcoin Trader - [link]3 Leonardo - [link]4
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Yeah ok keep pumping out the articles about this so funny I would bet the articles stating bitcoin went to 1000$ on fraudulent money is 100% posted by insider traders or Wall St.. And Its no secret Wall St is driven by insider trading. Heck you can watch a documentary that shows how they do insider trading using loopholes of having a couple people down the line get the info that they "donate" money to for information. But anyways I just wanted to post another rant and laugh... Also, if you want to claim bitcoin is fraudulent based on a couple people who traded 36 million dollars worth of a coin worth 250 Billion on average give or take 50 billion or 0.000144% of bitcoin then I guess all banks should close tomorrow since 90% of all money banks handle have traces of cociane on them and clearly came from fraudulent places.
Again, I will state bitcoin will rise and fall like it always does pretty much only falling from fake news pumped in sync with sell offs to try to get more for cheap, and thats fine its so obvious to me also I have traded since before Mt.Gox and the coins never went to its peak and stayed there untill after the fall of Mt.Gox. The timeline may show that right before Mt.gox froze the price of BTC was going up. Until around that time but anyone who used MT.Gox knows that no one could move, trade or withdraw there funds long before it was froze and it finally froze from the lawsuits regarding this so essentially Mt.Gox was out of the game.
And for those who like facts here you are I will include the links also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bitcoin#2013
"On 15 May 2013, the US authorities seized accounts associated with Mt. Gox after discovering that it had not registered as a money transmitter with FinCEN in the US.[52][53]
On 17 May 2013, it was reported that BitInstant processed approximately 30 percent of the money going into and out of bitcoin, and in April alone facilitated 30,000 transactions,[54]
On 23 June 2013, it was reported that the US Drug Enforcement Administration listed 11.02 bitcoins as a seized asset in a United States Department of Justice seizure notice pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 881.[55] It is the first time a government agency has claimed to have seized bitcoin.[56][57]
In July 2013 a project began in Kenya linking bitcoin with M-Pesa, a popular mobile payments system, in an experiment designed to spur innovative payments in Africa.[58] During the same month the Foreign Exchange Administration and Policy Department in Thailand stated that bitcoin lacks any legal framework and would therefore be illegal, which effectively banned trading on bitcoin exchanges in the country.[59][60] According to Vitalik Buterin, a writer for Bitcoin Magazine, "bitcoin's fate in Thailand may give the electronic currency more credibility in some circles", but he was concerned it didn't bode well for bitcoin in China.[61]
On 6 August 2013, Federal Judge Amos Mazzant of the Eastern District of Texas of the Fifth Circuit ruled that bitcoins are "a currency or a form of money" (specifically securities as defined by Federal Securities Laws), and as such were subject to the court's jurisdiction,[62][63] and Germany's Finance Ministry subsumed bitcoins under the term "unit of account"—a financial instrument—though not as e-money or a functional currency, a classification nonetheless having legal and tax implications.[64]
In October 2013, the FBI seized roughly 26,000 BTC from website Silk Road during the arrest of alleged owner Ross William Ulbricht.[65][66][67] Two companies, Robocoin and Bitcoiniacs launched the world's first bitcoin ATM on 29 October 2013 in Vancouver, BC, Canada, allowing clients to sell or purchase bitcoin currency at a downtown coffee shop.[68][69][70] Chinese internet giant Baidu had allowed clients of website security services to pay with bitcoins.[71]
In November 2013, the University of Nicosia announced that it would be accepting bitcoin as payment for tuition fees, with the university's chief financial officer calling it the "gold of tomorrow".[72] During November 2013, the China-based bitcoin exchange BTC China overtook the Japan-based Mt. Gox and the Europe-based Bitstamp to become the largest bitcoin trading exchange by trade volume.[73]
In December 2013, Overstock.com[74] announced plans to accept bitcoin in the second half of 2014. On 5 December 2013, the People's Bank of China prohibited Chinese financial institutions from using bitcoins.[75] After the announcement, the value of bitcoins dropped,[76] and Baidu no longer accepted bitcoins for certain services.[77] Buying real-world goods with any virtual currency has been illegal in China since at least 2009.[78]"
In fact I was trading the Down swings around this time and remember it quite clearly and the price most deffinatly did not shoot up with any relation to Mt.Gox if anything Mt.Gox was the reason for the fall from the news and panic!
Also, WAKE UP PEOPLE. Wall St's total value is what 2.7 Trillion that took like 100 years to get. Does no one else realize the magnitude of Bitcoin to them. Bitcoin in 10 years or less including its many other Coins under it is worth 658-758Billion or 0.65-0.75T in 1/10th the time Wall St did it and its getting bigger all the time.
I've said it before and Ill say it again there scared because Bitcoin, (and altcoin), traders are used to volatility, We can loose 70% of our gains or investment in a day or an hour and still keep on truckin. But that type of volatility scared the pants off the big traders because they also have investors to explain these situations to and they have no merits to base there explanations on since nothing in the real world short of good and bad news or money in and money out of coins affects the prices very much. And for this reason Wall St will never like it and the fact its outside of there nice controlled systems they designed that benefit the rich and rape the poor. And this new system which does not allow credit, or BS is a new realm to them. Sure there might be some insider trading some of the time but the order books and live stats are available to anyone and everyone equally, unlike stocks where you need crazy memberships just to get short 15 minute delayed stats on the live markets and only the top accounts with over 50,000$ invested can even dream about getting anything better. And you have to pay 6.99-24.99 Per trade the lesser being for the 50k investor, leaving no learning curve for the small guys. So in my opinion its still a way better system and anyone can easily do some research like I have today and not panic sell from every little BS article and simple trade for yourselves. And Bitcoin to Altcoin trades BTW will cost you 0.06-0.08% and Bitcoin/Altcoin to USD (Or your Currency) will cost you 0.18-0.24% on most exchanges or platforms.
If you've read my rant this far I thank you for your time. Some article just really grind my gears :D
PS - Below is some handy trading platforms and tools
I would also like to take a moment just to say anyone interested in a FreeTrading Platform should check out Qt Bitcoin Trader from source forge. Or if your a bit more advanced there is a nice program you can try for free and the trial is the the same as the full version (I have used both since I bought it shortly after) and that is called LeonarDo by margin software a very talented German company.
Qt Bitcoin Trader - https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcointrade Leonardo - https://marginsoftware.de/product.html
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So, the IRS ruling on Bitcoin will probably mean a BUNCH of ATMs are coming to a town near you.

You know that recent IRS Bitcoin ruling? They state that Bitcoin is property, not a currency. At the same time, Robocoin has slashed it's fees to its merchants to 0%, while Lamassu, another Bitcoin ATM manufacturer has sped up delivery time to 8 weeks. I don't think this is a coincidence. If Bitcoin is not "technically" a currency as stipulated by the IRS, then that means there is no need to comply with AML/KYC laws and there is no need to register as a MONEY transmitter.
Are you picking up what I'm putting down? ; )
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Opening a Bitcoin ATM

I am interested in purchasing a Bitcoin ATM but I'm wondering about money transmission laws for the United States. Would I fall under a money transmitter?
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Fear of a Bitcoin unfriendly New Hampshire money transmitter law makes Poloniex suspend NH accounts Boinnex - How to use a Bitcoin ATM Adam S. Tracy - YouTube How to withdraw cash from BITCOIN ATM machine - YouTube Adam Tracy Provides an Update on Bitcoin ATM Regulation

In Part I, we covered the law of money transmission on the federal level in the United States.We learned about the BSA, AML and KYC. We learned why money transmitter classification on the federal ... Dear CoinMover Customers and Law Enforcement, Unfortunately, Bitcoin ATM scams are becoming more and more prevalent these days, and they are often quite successful. In a recent case, one victim got caught up in a relatively common scam involving the supposed “Social Security Administration.” She was duped by a phone call from a scammer who insisted that she insert money into a Bitcoin ATM ... MTA Not Applicable to Bitcoin in Pennsylvania. In a memo titled “Money Transmitter Act Guidance for Virtual Currency Businesses,” the Pennsylvania DoBS clarified that the Money Transmitter Act (MTA) did not apply to cryptocurrency exchanges.. The clarification focused on the precise definitions encompassed in the MTA, which focused on what constitutes money and when is an MTA license required. In Texas, for example, if you have a bitcoin ATM that is a standalone device and you personally stock it with bitcoin, you do not need a Texas money transmitter license, Repasky said. But if your machine is connected to a virtual currency exchange, where bitcoin is purchased directly off the exchange, you are required to have a money transfer license to operate in the state. Like Venmo and Western Union, the Bitcoin ATM providers must comply with “Non-bank money transmitter” rules under state and federal law as well. According to them, since Bitcoin/crypto ATM provides an exchange of FIAT to cryptocurrencies or vice versa, it comes under Money Service Business (MSB).

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Fear of a Bitcoin unfriendly New Hampshire money transmitter law makes Poloniex suspend NH accounts

This week on Around the Coin, Faisal Khan, Brian Roemmele, and Mike Townsend discuss everything about money transmitter licenses, including how they work, who needs one, and how bitcoin plays a role. New Hampshire does not seem to be very libertarian when it comes to associating Bitcoin and money transmitters. Poloniex is trying to deal with the horrible NH law while outside the USA exchanges ... Bitcoin The Bitcoin ATM is set to only dispense $1000 per day this keeps the owner of the machine in compliance with FInCen regulations which state that in order to not be considered a Money Services ... Simple demonstration of the Cryptocurrency kiosks, more commonly known as Bitcoin ATMs in Cork, Ireland. Buy Bitcoin and Ethereum boinnex.com

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